Comments on: Impartial Advice? http://andyonenterprisesoftware.com/2007/01/impartial-advice/ Andy Hayler, noted industry expert and founder of Kalido, gives his view on developments in the enterprise software market. Issues covered include data warehousing, master data management, business intelligence and corporate performance management. Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:02:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.3 by: Andy Hayler http://andyonenterprisesoftware.com/2007/01/impartial-advice/#comment-22833 Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:23:31 +0000 http://andyonenterprisesoftware.com/2007/01/impartial-advice/#comment-22833 Thanks Chris. I just love product marketing departments, who seem to rejoice in producing, as you say "content free" material. Your final comment reminded me of an unrelated story that I always enjoyed. A young (later Lord) Denning reputedly once was in a complex civil case and having trouble explaining some technical point of a law to an elderly judge. The befuddled judge said: "Mr Denning, after that explanation of yours I am none the wiser". An exasperated Denning replied: "No indeed my lord; merely better informed." In this case it seems that HP's collateral achieved neither result. Thanks Chris. I just love product marketing departments, who seem to rejoice in producing, as you say “content free” material. Your final comment reminded me of an unrelated story that I always enjoyed.

A young (later Lord) Denning reputedly once was in a complex civil case and having trouble explaining some technical point of a law to an elderly judge. The befuddled judge said: “Mr Denning, after that explanation of yours I am none the wiser”. An exasperated Denning replied: “No indeed my lord; merely better informed.”

In this case it seems that HP’s collateral achieved neither result.

]]> by: Chris Angus http://andyonenterprisesoftware.com/2007/01/impartial-advice/#comment-22832 Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:40:16 +0000 http://andyonenterprisesoftware.com/2007/01/impartial-advice/#comment-22832 Reading your piece on Neoview aroused my curiosity sufficiently to try and find out more. A look at HP's web pages Neoview did little to satisfy my curiosity - I think that they rank as close to information free. The one case study makes no mention of Neoview, so presumably it didn't play a part and the 'Platform components' tab says nothing about components. Follow the link from that page to 'HP Neoview Services' thinking "maybe this is where they describe the software services that underpin the platform" and you find out that these services are what HP people need do to make the platform (whatever that might be) do what you need - presumably if you needs change then HP are called in again. Just to make it seem more real there are further links to 'Customer successes'. These successes may indeed be very real, but seem to have little connection to data warehousing - and make no mention of Neoview. So, after my visit I am no wiser as to whether or not 'Neoview' really exists or what form it might take. Reading your piece on Neoview aroused my curiosity sufficiently to try and find out more. A look at HP’s web pages Neoview did little to satisfy my curiosity - I think that they rank as close to information free.

The one case study makes no mention of Neoview, so presumably it didn’t play a part and the ‘Platform components’ tab says nothing about components. Follow the link from that page to ‘HP Neoview Services’ thinking “maybe this is where they describe the software services that
underpin the platform” and you find out that these services are what HP people need do to make the platform (whatever that might be) do what you need - presumably if you needs change then HP are called in again.

Just to make it seem more real there are further links to ‘Customer successes’. These successes may indeed be very real, but seem to have little connection to data warehousing - and make no mention of Neoview.

So, after my visit I am no wiser as to whether or not ‘Neoview’ really exists or what form it might take.

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